Oh wow. What great faces we’re making in that thumbnail image. It looks like we’re extremely concerned.
And with good reason, actually, because this week we too are considering whether the kids all right. Hard to say, honestly. On one hand, there’s a new poll out that reveals that Gen Z men have more conservative politics than their grandfathers. And oh buddy are there far too many bad faith dude whisperers trying to convince young fellas to join the He Man Women Hater’s Club. But the Breeders can’t help but root for our slightly younger compatriots. We too are figuring it out.
This was a fun episode. Sarah interviewed Garrett about a recent piece he wrote about that study. This dovetailed into a discussion of a critique that Garrett often gets, when he makes arguments about how it’s more important for guys to care about being better neighbors than being “better men.” Namely, that young guys aren’t going to listen to all that potluck-based pablum. What if they need somebody to appeal directly to their manhood? What if they’ll ignore folks like Garrett who aren’t willing to talk to them about masculinity specifically?
Interesting questions, for sure. Pretty good fodder for a podcast, actually.
Also discussed: Various places Andie Macdowell has lived; whether the movie Groundhog Day holds up; Garrett’s birthday (and the best age to have a birthday); Garrett’s entire taxonomy of the manosphere in less than five minutes; Sarah’s first ever boundary; a movie that is not out in theaters yet but that Sarah has already pre-analyzed; consensual open mouth stranger kissing… and a very bizarre novelty t-shirt.
Links:
Literally just a Facebook thread of Missoulians bragging about seeing Andie Macdowell around town.
“Why Phil Connors from Groundhog Day is actually a terrible person”
Kings College study on international viewpoints on gender (broken down by generation)
Garrett’s essay about the study (“An open letter to the 31% of Gen Z men who believe that a woman’s role is to obey her husband”).
Another field guide to the manosphere (Media Matters)
Anand Giridharadas on the Epstein class and the elite male drive to separate themselves from any actual human relationships (“Never Eat With Women,” The Ink ).
“There is one word that explains why so many men are in the Epstein files, so why is nobody saying it” ( Celeste Davis in Matriarchal Blessing ).
Garrett and Celeste’s live conversation ( “Scott Galloway is basically a Mormon housewife”).
“The empathy perception gap” (Stanford Report)
Nate Bergatze is… The Breadwinner
Elvis Presley, who, whether we want to admit it or not, embodies how both Sarah and Garrett would act on stage if they were international pop superstars.












